Posts by Conan

81) Message boards : Number crunching : iThena PERF v1.02 windows intelx86 Tasks that run FOREVER / until abort them. (Message 545)
Posted 16 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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You have another system on some computer?
Windows 7? Windows 10?


Yes I have a Win 7 system which is running fine.

I have tried a number of things suggested on the web but none have worked.

Conan
82) Message boards : News : iThena PERF version 1.03 - platforms windows_intelx86 and x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (Message 542)
Posted 16 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Nothing has changed for my Linux computer, it still gets the same CNODE work units it got before, still gets .000000333 points per work unit.
How do you find the IPERF work units for Linux? They can't be selected in preferences as they aren't listed.

Conan
83) Message boards : Number crunching : iThena PERF v1.02 windows intelx86 Tasks that run FOREVER / until abort them. (Message 541)
Posted 16 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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I keep getting EXIT-CHILD-FAILED, with run times from over 2 hours to 9 seconds, all fail. I have the redistributables up to 2019 installed but all work units are failing. Is this another Windows XP issue. The test work units did not work either for me on this computer.

Conan

EDIT: Forget the 2 hours then fail, they all now fail in a few seconds.
I have allowed access in my virus scanner but still no go.
84) Message boards : Number crunching : iThena PERF v1.02 windows intelx86 Tasks that run FOREVER / until abort them. (Message 534)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Quorum of 1, so no resend queue.

But I have noticed a severe drop off in clearance rate with the PERF work units, suspect everyone getting never ending tasks and don't know it so not aborting the faulty work units.
It would be hard to abort faulty work on heaps of machines, I suppose which is possibly why they are getting cleared out.

I have not had a single work unit succeed all day, had to abort all of them, just did another two (on Windows).

Conan
85) Message boards : Number crunching : iThena PERF v1.02 windows intelx86 Tasks that run FOREVER / until abort them. (Message 532)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Thanks Rysiu,
That is good news.
I have had no Windows output during the last 12 hours or so due to every PERF WU now running non stop and not ending.

My Linux machine is going fine but not giving much return (but you know about that).

Awaiting the new work units.

Conan
86) Message boards : Number crunching : iThena PERF v1.02 windows intelx86 Tasks that run FOREVER / until abort them. (Message 524)
Posted 12 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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I believe that it is somewhere between 1 and 2 hours normally. Some can go up to 3 hours and still finish and validate.
I personally abort ones that go past 2 1/5 hours as possible failures. Definitely the ones I catch at 3 to10+ hours get killed straight away.

The new applications that Rysiu is trying to get working for both Windows and Linux has a possible fix to this issue.
(Though I have only seen the endless running work units on Windows and not on Linux.)

Conan
87) Message boards : Number crunching : Points/Credit (Message 522)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Yes thank you Rysiu. We know that you are working very hard, thanks again.

Conan
88) Message boards : Number crunching : Points/Credit (Message 516)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Thanks Coleslaw,
No I have tried to follow a link I found on youtube a while back, not sure if it is the same one or not.
It was by a BOINC user (Toby?? someone possibly, I forget).
He showed all the steps he uses to create 100 to 1000 boinc instances and how to add a project to those instances.

I decided that I was not that worried about trying it, although I could give GoofyxGrid or iThena a go with a couple of instances and see how it runs. maybe one day, not too worried about it at the moment.

In the case of iThena it would only be worthwhile on a Windows computer and even then I would have to have many, many instances for it to be generating useful credit numbers.
On Linux I could create 1,000 instances and still not get to 1 point after a many days running it.

Conan
89) Message boards : Number crunching : Points/Credit (Message 514)
Posted 10 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Check out the front page news section on WUProp project to understand the implications of Goofyxgrid and it's effect on WUProp as seen by the Admin of that project.

In a nutshell, if you run more Boinc Instances on your computer than the number of cores that machine has and you have a copy of WUProp in each Boinc Instance collecting data and hours, then it will be deemed a form of cheating (from a WUProp point of view) and those hours from those hosts will not be counted.
If you have as many or less Boinc Instances than the number of cores per machine then it should be no trouble.

It has to do with the fact as to what WUProp is actually trying to do, record memory usage, CPU types, Operating systems,etc for each project that runs and then collating that information so people can use it to see what projects are running, what is required to run them or if they can actually run it.

Big nutshell but that is the gist of it.

It is not a problem for me as I could not work out how to run more than one Bonic Instance on a single machine anyway.

Conan
90) Message boards : Number crunching : New applications in the test phase [before the introduction of BOINC iThena] (Message 506)
Posted 8 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Four groups is not enough.
I think it would be a good option to group using these groups as well.
But standard four groups is not enough.
This would mean that you can manually enter only four different locations.

Of course, different automatics can be realized e.g. using GPS (when available) - then we add the location to the WU results file.

However, if we have better manual control, the number of groups should be larger.

So I think it is necessary to use existing mechanisms (default, home, work, school) and to implement a bit more.


Check out Primegrid as they have added 10 extra groups (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto).
So more groups can be added but I am not sure how they did it.

Conan
91) Message boards : Number crunching : New applications in the test phase [before the introduction of BOINC iThena] (Message 497)
Posted 6 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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It looks OK, but I will have to dig around to find some of the required information (such as latitude and longitude).
A lot of it is already on the host detail page anyway.

Conan
92) Message boards : News : Maintenance and new version of iThena PERF application - Linux platform - Continuation (Message 495)
Posted 6 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Well I am one of those Linux users, I may not of asked yet, simply because the Admin knows about the issue and he doesn't need another chiming in.
Rysiu has said he is developing another application for Linux and we await for this new App.

However it would of been nice if the current Linux application had an increase in credits awarded.
If that is not really possible due to the application, then as the Work Units are counted a Back Payment can be done for the work already done.

Rysiu is a busy man, we know and respect that.

Getting the new applications going is a higher priority at the moment.
Us Linux users are still waiting patiently for something to happen along the lines of helping the Linux users get parity with Windows users.

Just thinking out loud.

Thanks
Conan
93) Message boards : News : Maintenance and new version of iThena PERF application - Linux platform - Continuation (Message 488)
Posted 4 May 2020 by Profile Conan
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Tomorrow I will add new versions of PERF application.
Theoretically, according to tests, the new version should never "freeze" - a timeout for specific commands has been added.
Tomorrow we will test on BOINC.

What do I have to do, to finally get some recognised work on my penguin?
Up to now you denied penguins any credits without ever given any proper reason, and I still never received any of these magic PERF stuff, that, while doing nothing more on their machines, get billions more credits for this.


https://root.ithena.net/usr/show_user.php?userid=705 => he has 100's of systems.

you have 1.
you will never compete.


I don't think he is trying to compete, he is asking for parity between Linux and Windows.
6 hours work on Linux should be close to equal to 6 hours work on Windows.
So if Windows gets 12 points for those 6 hours then so too should Linux get 12 points.
This is not what is happening and is the basis of the complaint, I believe.

Conan
94) Message boards : Number crunching : crédits Gnu-linux vs Windows (Message 456)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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I just connected a Linux based computer to the project.
Disappointed with the credit allocation to say the least, and now I know what others have been talking about.

It will take me 1,000,000 (1 Million) work units to get to 3.33 points on that host.

On Windows I will have 2,000,000 points for the same effort.

So it will take me 600,600 Work Units to equal just 1 Windows WU.

Does not add up very well to me.

Anyway when you have time can you take a look please.

(I know you are working on a new Linux Application so maybe that will fix the discrepancy)

Thanks
Conan
95) Message boards : Number crunching : New applications in the test phase [before the introduction of BOINC iThena] (Message 447)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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@Conan: Maybe adding ntdll.dll directly to the application directory will help?
https://www.dll-files.com/ntdll.dll.html


G'Day Rysiu

No that did not change anything,

I tried two different and newer versions of ntdll.dll but I still get the same error message that there is a problem with the entry point EtwGetTraceFlags and the library ntdll.dll.

Nothing really stood out as helpful doing a quick look on Google.

I did try re-registering ntdll.dll and then found out that you can't as it is not a function that is supported by ntdll.dll, so that is why it failed to register, worth a try.

I have not added the newer downloaded versions of ntdll.dll to my /windows/system32/ folder as I don't think my installed version of ntdll.dll is corrupt and I don't want the newer versions to bugger up my Windows install, so I have only placed the newer files in the iThena folder I created for the test.

Conan
96) Message boards : Number crunching : New applications in the test phase [before the introduction of BOINC iThena] (Message 440)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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I tried again with the new R1 download file.

The error message changed to "api-ms-win-core-crt-l1-1-0.dll was not found"

So I went out and downloaded a version of it.

Re-ran and then got the error "api-ms-win-core-crt-l2-1-0.dll was not found"

Located that and downloaded that as well

Tried again and then got the error message that

"The procedure entry point EtwGetTraceFlags could not be located in the dynamic library ntdll.dll"

I have ntdll.dll installed in /windows/system32/ folder so it should be OK, unless a newer version is required.

It is now 1.35 AM here in Australia so I am off to bed and I will try again later today.

Conan
97) Message boards : Number crunching : New applications in the test phase [before the introduction of BOINC iThena] (Message 436)
Posted 20 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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At the beginning I add a test version of PERD application for Windows:
https://root.ithena.net/usr/apps_test/ithena_perf_v1.03_bin_windows_intelx86.zip

You can start this application by running the file: ithena_perf_v1.03_windows_intelx86.exe

The application should work properly on 32-bit and 64-bit systems.

I would like to ask you to test the application (on different systems).
The application should not "freeze" anymore.

You can send the results to my email address: lswierczewski at cybercomplex.net

I was supposed to add the application to BOINC faster, but there were some problems/errors.

Thanks a lot! ;)


Win XP 32 bit
I am probably not doing this correctly, but when trying to run the programme I get the message "The procedure entry point inet_pton could not be located in the dynamic link library WS2_32.dll"

I am not sure when to extract this to, so I tried a separate folder and also from the Boinc folder.

Conan
98) Message boards : News : Maintenance and new version of iThena PERF application - Linux platform - Continuation (Message 418)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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Thanks for the heads up.

Conan
99) Message boards : Number crunching : Web site very slow (Message 410)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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I had the problem during the day, it was slow this morning and was even slower tonight (I am in Australia and it now late at night), I had to do other things for a little while before the screens would change.

I notice now that it is a lot better, as you said it could of been a networking issue (external to my residence as I had no trouble with other sites, even running youtube videos).

Conan
100) Message boards : Number crunching : Multi task (Message 409)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Conan
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I had one computer do this and downloaded 3 tasks, which all finished at the same time then only one task downloaded.
However I am showing 3 tasks running on my account at the moment, I have a single task on each of my computers, so it appears that I have a ghost WU.
I also had the message that I had a resent WU, which processed fine and only one WU downloaded to replace it once it uploaded.
This all happened around 2 to 3 hours ago.

Conan


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