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Message 161 - Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 19:35:25 UTC

The Alpha and Beta suggestions:
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And here are the first badges for credits:
Bronze, 1 star:
Silver, 1 star:
Gold, 1 star:
I have already made them with 2 and 3 stars, but want to wait if this is okay.
Can also make them with 4 stars and 1 big star, or in addition when this is not enough for credit ranges with more colours.
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Message 162 - Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 20:28:49 UTC

I think 2) and 3) is more readable?

For 2) can you add so that the background is properly transparent? (here white color)

I am waiting for notes ;)
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Message 163 - Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 3:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 161.  


And here are the first badges for credits:
Bronze, 1 star:
Silver, 1 star:
Gold, 1 star:
I have already made them with 2 and 3 stars, but want to wait if this is okay.
Can also make them with 4 stars and 1 big star, or in addition when this is not enough for credit ranges with more colours.


those badges look great !!
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Message 165 - Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 9:09:43 UTC - in response to Message 163.  

Bok wrote:
those badges look great !!

Thanks Bok.
But now as I compare them with the badges in my sig I see the stars are too small, especially since the badge is a little bit bigger than the usual ones anyway.
I think I need to remake the whole thing with different sizes...

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For 2) can you add so that the background is properly transparent? (here white color)

Strange, I don't know why this is black, the transparency of the pictures is set correctly. Probably the upload-service doesn't support it, but I can't find an info for it.
Maybe I try another one later when I upload newer badges.
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Message 171 - Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 18:05:33 UTC

@DoctorNow maybe you would do option 2) of badge for the beta version in many variants?

- Bronze Beta Phase Badge
- Silver Beta Phase Badge
- Gold Beta Phase Badge
- Ruby Beta Phase Badge
- Emerald Beta Phase Badge
- Shapphire Beta Phase Badge
- Diamond Beta Phase Badge

Maybe different ideas?
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Message 172 - Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 0:46:23 UTC
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looking like good ideas
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Message 173 - Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 9:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 171.  
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Maybe different ideas?

Do you need gradations for the beta phase?
When everyone has zero statistics, though for some this Zero is bigger :o)

For beta, it is enough to manually issue a badge once with the criterion yes / no
And leave bronze-silver-gold for each real application with non-zero statistics 1K-1M-1G (e.g. logo + "C-node" + stars)
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Message 174 - Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 19:08:10 UTC

@Sergey: In your profile I can see that you don't have zero credits ;)
I do not see a problem in giving badges ;)
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Message 175 - Posted: 25 Nov 2019, 9:20:23 UTC - in response to Message 174.  

I do not see a problem in giving badges ;)

in this case, you need another scale - nano-micro-mini badges ;o)
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Message 178 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 8:59:05 UTC

Yes;) they will be properly scaled badges ;)
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Message 181 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 171.  

Sorry for the wait, had some busy days (un)fortunately... ;-)

@DoctorNow maybe you would do option 2) of badge for the beta version in many variants?

Well, I can do that, but as long as the credit issue is not really solved I wonder what this should bring.
Besides, I'm not sure what you are planning with this badge, but this would be your problem.
From my personal view the emblem looks a bit too simple and not project relevant but there are quite a few of badges who do that -

Meanwhile, since I thought myself that the stars in the first sketch were too small I redesigned the whole thing in an appropriate size and developed two new prototypes:


These are only in bronze so far, if you think it's good then I will do more in more colours.
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Message 183 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 181.  


Well, I can do that, but as long as the credit issue is not really solved I wonder what this should bring.


I can introduce new credits to the template even in a moment.
However, this is not the problem.

Currently, credits are very, very small.
I would like to appreciate supporting users even at this stage.

If I now set up new credits, then automatically one task will give more in numerical statistics than a few months of someone else's previous work.

I should not rather re-count old credits.

This is not a big problem. However, I would like to appreciate the first participants ;)

Maybe I think wrong ... ;)
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Message 184 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:49:23 UTC - in response to Message 183.  

I would like to appreciate supporting users even at this stage.

Well okay, but wouldn't be one badge enough already?
I cannot see and don't understand how do you want to make a difference between the rankings you mentioned above:
- Bronze Beta Phase Badge
- Silver Beta Phase Badge
- Gold Beta Phase Badge
- Ruby Beta Phase Badge
- Emerald Beta Phase Badge
- Shapphire Beta Phase Badge
- Diamond Beta Phase Badge

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Message 185 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 20:28:44 UTC - in response to Message 183.  

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If I now set up new credits, then automatically one task will give more in numerical statistics than a few months of someone else's previous work.

I should not rather re-count old credits.
This is not a big problem. However, I would like to appreciate the first participants ;)
Maybe I think wrong ... ;)


Yes..you think wrong!

Make a spesial -first participants Bagde- if this is so important, award this badge to them who has done work so far,,,
Star up a new fixed cred payment and let the badge/cred hunting start..
If you go over to another phase with your project later,, cred-score and any project conditions could be the same..but legal to change....
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Message 186 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 20:45:55 UTC - in response to Message 185.  


Yes..you think wrong!

Make a spesial -first participants Bagde- if this is so important, award this badge to them who has done work so far,,,
Star up a new fixed cred payment and let the badge/cred hunting start..
If you go over to another phase with your project later,, cred-score and any project conditions could be the same..but legal to change....


I don't understand enough ;)
How is this different from the previous proposal? ;)
1) we design beta badges and set a fast deadline 2) we set beta badges and change the score. 3) later another bagde.
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Message 187 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 21:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 186.  


Yes..you think wrong!

Make a spesial -first participants Bagde- if this is so important, award this badge to them who has done work so far,,,
Star up a new fixed cred payment and let the badge/cred hunting start..
If you go over to another phase with your project later,, cred-score and any project conditions could be the same..but legal to change....


I don't understand enough ;)
How is this different from the previous proposal? ;)
1) we design beta badges and set a fast deadline 2) we set beta badges and change the score. 3) later another bagde.


Sorry my bad, i mixed this discussion , with the cred-talk..
Advice; do what you want, make it happend, and move on!!!
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Message 188 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 7:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 186.  

1) we design beta badges and set a fast deadline 2) we set beta badges and change the score. 3) later another bagde.


leave the current application with its almost zero credit system for beta
open _new_ application with a new credit system and new badges

this is where per_application_accounting (subprojects) should work
there are no total badges (credits are disproportionate), only separately for each sub-projects.
maybe a meaningful total will appear later - when there will be several balanced applications, and the beta will disappear within the rounding error

all accounts of all applications should be displayed on the user’s page (see the monkeys at Goofix or PrimeGrid)
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Message 189 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 10:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 184.  
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I would like to appreciate supporting users even at this stage.

Well okay, but wouldn't be one badge enough already?
I cannot see and don't understand how do you want to make a difference between the rankings you mentioned above:
- Bronze Beta Phase Badge
- Silver Beta Phase Badge
- Gold Beta Phase Badge
- Ruby Beta Phase Badge
- Emerald Beta Phase Badge
- Shapphire Beta Phase Badge
- Diamond Beta Phase Badge

I repeat the above question since I see no answer so far to it. And before this I won't make any badges since I don't want to do unnecessary work. ;-)
How do you plan to make a difference on so much (beta) badges, Rysiu?
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Message 191 - Posted: 28 Nov 2019, 19:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 189.  

I repeat the above question since I see no answer so far to it. And before this I won't make any badges since I don't want to do unnecessary work. ;-)
How do you plan to make a difference on so much (beta) badges, Rysiu?

On the same principle as almost everywhere (there are of course exceptions).
Credits are the rule ;)
Here the credits are very small. However, these are numbers - the numbers can be scaled ;)

You are probably right - too many types of badges.
Maybe classically: bronze, silver and gold? ;)
The three levels are probably ok.
I would plan to close this stage on January 1, 2020 (probably).

Sorry for the slow answer ;)
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Message 193 - Posted: 29 Nov 2019, 9:34:42 UTC - in response to Message 191.  
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Ok, will see when I have time to make them, a whole weekend is waiting. ;-)
Meanwhile I want to know if the badges with the stars (some posts above) are good enough before making more.
These of course can be made in way more colours also.
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